Why does argentina want the falklands so badly

The population wants to remain with the UK, how is forcing them to join Argentina against their will anti-colonialist? If you force someone to join a country against their will it stifles their right of self determination and forcing the Falklands to join Argentina against their will would be exactly the opposite of what the UN stands for self determination.

Maggie Thatcher took the UK into the war for one reason only. To defend the UK inhabitants of the Falklands. Why were Argentina determined to give a stubborn fight? Because the Falklands are Argentinian!! Having UK anybody on an island right next to South America tells you that the Brits had been up to their old colony tricks again!

Now the Brits want oil, of course Argentina is unhappy. An island touching tails with Africa, with white, english speakers there. An accident? UK have been playing their conquer and colonise card for too long! They belong to Argentina. The people their must realise that they are not living in the British isles, but on a tiny island off the coast of South America.

There is nothing British about that. It is the principle of the UK obtaining land that is not theirs and putting their countrymen on it to claim that it is! That is wrong! What makes an island a nation and therefore the ruler is the person it is owned by! That is where colonisation comes in, Britain forgot this. So if these Islanders want to pay their taxes to Britain, they might as well go back to Britain!

While the actions of the British in initially taking over the islands and indeed Gibraltar in the past may have been an act of colonialism.

The fact is that in the present currently the Falklands are a self governing territory who freely choose to remain associated with the United Kingdom and it should be up to the people through their democratically elected legislature to decide their own future. The argument about Africa misses something badly too. It just appears as shouting. The wrongs of colonialsim are precsiely what should not be repeated. The current islanders have been there generations and are part of those islands, not the British Isles.

If they chose to be British, independent or part of another country it is up to them. They are the only people truly affected by any decision now. Ignoring this is as bad as the British imperialism that is criticised. The Argentine claim is largely one about national pride and nothing else, and the land is insignificant in relation to the size of Arrgentina. The issue had frequently been used simply as a distraction to domestic problems. UK colonialist history tells us this is a high possibility, not to be overlooked.

This is a complete propaganda. Irrespective of the rights or wrongs, the British take over was relatively benign. In truth, the French were the first settler followed less than a year by the British who left their settlement after the American War of Independence but not their claim. This was most likely due to the number of British mecenaries working for them who would not have fired on their own countrymen and the numerical superiority of the British force.

When internal conflict with a group of outlaws led by Rivero living in the interior of the Islands caused Vernet and the other leaders to flee the settlement to Turf island he, Vernet was recued by the British and not allowed to return. Reviero was captured but realeased due to legal arguments andf returned to Argentina. Bizarrrely he is now revered as an Argentine folk hero when it was his actions that sealed the fate of the Argentine settlement!

The confusion about fighting the British possibly comes from the earlier raid by the the American ship the USS Lexington over seal hunting interests and the incidences during the Napoleonic Wars when present day Argentina was a Spanish colony and the subject of a British Campiagn.

Just because the Falkland islands are close to Argentina should make no difference. Are Iceland and Canada demanding that Denmark give up Greenland? Equally their are odd small states who we do not deny statehood; Luxembourg, Vatican city, various pacific islands etc. Just because the jigsaw is a bit complicated does not mean that it is worth keeping. Furthermore, Spain never actually occupied the islands. As to statehood, the Falklands WANT to remain part of the UK, forcing them to do something else would deny them their right of self-determination.

The difference is that Argentina has foundation in its claim on the Falklands — during the reign of Queen Elizabeth 1st a treaty designated that the islands would be Spanish territory. She defied this.

On independence, Argentina retained its claim on the land and has maintained this ever since. As you have said proximity is no reason to lay foundation for a claim and Argentina has other reasons as I have said. Also I am not sure why you would deny a state statehood just because it is small. That is illogical. In my opinion: smaller is better! The only reason Argentina wants the island back in the first place is because numerous oil deposits have been found in and around the Falkland Islands.

I think that this pretty much refutes your astoundingly ill-thought out comment. No this is untrue — Argentina has claimed the islands since the reign of Queen Elizabeth the first.

The recent discovery of natural resources has simply brought their claim to the forefront of their attention…. Quite simply, they do not speak Spanish. The people of the Falklands also want to be part of the UK and not Argentina. The Falklands were only Argentinian for a year; The British had originally colonized them in and the Argentinians had colonized it in despite protests by Britain.

Britain then reasserted its sovereignty over the Falklands in These islands belong to Argentina. No question about it. UK has and always will be a colonialist nation looking to take lands from anyone and anywhere they feel they can get away with it.

So why is the UN not doing anything about this? Look at how the UN is quick to fire shots into the Middle East whilst not even blowing a whistle when European corruption is the talk of the day. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

In no case may a people be deprived of its own means of subsistence. Looking at various news articles I am assured many times that the islanders want to remain British, but cant find the actual poll results so who knows!

All people do have the right of self-determination. But when you steal land from other people and bring in your English speaking citizens from the UK to squat on the land and call it their own, therein lies a serious problem. Sure we can fuss about how the people living in the Maldivas want to be ruled by the UK, but hell, they are originally from the UK to begin with. The issue is not the people in the Maldivas but the land itself.

If people from the UK want to live in the Maldivas then so be it, but you will be under the rule Argentine laws and regulations. UK has and always will be a country of thieves and scoundrels. And trust, the UK has history of stealing, pillaging, raping, murdering and finally laying claim on lands that were never theirs to begin with.

The UN should take action, otherwise we can all see the UN for what it really is. A puppet of the white man. And for you who think I am Argentinian or live in South America.

Think again, I am from the United States. MsoNormal, li. MsoNormal, div. Anyone who has ever actually been there including Argentine nationals agrees with this.

The Argentines themselves are squatters on land to which they have no right — they stole it from the local American tribes upon whom they subsequently enacted widespread ethnic cleansing. The Kelpers, as the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands are called, are the first people to have lived on the islands for longer than a generation. The islands are their home; they and they alone have the right to decide who rules their home.

They have repeatedly stated their wish to remain British, and the islands themselves have little in common with Argentina. Many Argentine nationals, having been indoctrinated from birth that the people on the Falklands are Argentine, and that they are a part of Argentina, have come back with a totally changed opinion, having seen that the Falklands are nothing like Argentina and therefore cannot belong to them.

It is time everyone here realised that. The Islands look and feel British so must be British is a rather circular argument — if they were Argentine presumably they would look and feel Argentine!

Argentina does not want the Falklands to throw the islanders off. The British initially occupied the Falklands in , Argentina did not stake a claim until Therefore, the Falklands cannot be returned to the Argentinians as the were not theirs to begin with. The Argentine claim comes from the Spanish claim which was prior to Argentine independence. The Islanders have never been, nor be Argentine. The British government has always tried to use diplomacy regarding the Falklands.

Diplomacy went out the window when Argentina illegally invaded. The people on the islands do not want to be part of Argentina. The Falklands government has always been respectful and diplomatic when dealing with Argentina. The Falkland Isles are inhabited by British citizens who hold British passports, they wish to remain British. Argentina has no claim to the Falklands. The Falklands government is holding a referendum to show the international community its wishes. This resulted in a Lets be honest, any significant group of people living in a place have the right to decide what country the place they live in should be in.

If the UK was colonialist it would not be allowing a vote on Scottish indepencance. Besides, the UK were there first anyway so the yes argument is stupid and even if the British had taken it off the natives, we cannot blame modern Germany for the atrocities of the Nazis, neither can we blame the British for that.

The past is gone the fact is that the people who live there now and have been born and lived there for hundreds of years want to be British, if they had only been there for 20 years it would be different but now time has passed it is and hopefully forever will be a bastion of freedom and away from the hellhole of injustice and intolerance that is Argentina.

If we were to follow your theory then give Argentica back to the Natives. The right of self determination rules. The falklands should be British cause the Un said that the Falkland seems will remain as British the islanders voted to remain British even though the falklands are closer to argentine than Britain it does not matter. If you ask me just let the Falkland Islands be independent from both argentinian and british rule.

Arguments can be made that the islands are not british but there are few to no arguments that the islands are rightfully argentinian. So nobody has a clear right to own them just let them be independent. Which as a side note the UK is doing anyway.

Argentina would like to colonise and fully assert their control over it. There are many countries around the world the have their allegiance to a far away country. Hawaii, etc. The British fleet ultimately included 38 warships, 77 auxiliary vessel and 11, soldiers, sailors and marines. The conflict lasted 74 days and ended with the Argentine surrender on June 14, In the end, Argentine military personnel, British troops and three Falkland Islanders were killed in the conflict that returned the islands to British control.

Her quick response to the South Atlantic conflict and swift victory led to a surge in her popularity and subsequent reelection in We would get the islands back. I don't think any other British leader at that time would have handled things quite as clearly. Above all, Collins adds, the events of the war vindicated her.

She was seen as enormously tough and resourceful, someone you would not take on if you were wise. And, Bailey notes, Thatcher was the first woman to lead the country into battle since Elizabeth I. And to drive the point home, they decided to hold a referendum on March in which islanders will be asked whether they wish to continue as a British Overseas Territory. However, the Argentine government thinks that the islanders should have no voice in two-way discussions between Britain and Argentina over the future of the islands.

When I ask Senator Daniel Filmus, a member of the government committee on Las Malvinas, about the referendum he turns on me angrily:.

What is the point of asking these people if they want to be British? It is like asking an Argentine if he wants to be Argentine! It's a waste of time. There is no doubt that the wealth contained in the seas surrounding the Falklands opens a new dimension in the long-running debate. There were strong commercial links between the islands and Argentina before the Peronist government headed by Ms Fernandez' late husband, former President Nestor Kirchner, gained power in Ailing economy.

But both Mr Kirchner, and now his wife, who succeeded him as president in , refuse to deal with an authority they will not recognise and those links have been cut. Premier Oil is just one of the companies about to pump oil out of the South Atlantic and there could be huge opportunities for service industries based in Argentina, just miles km away. The refusal to work with the Falkland Islands could leave Argentina in danger of missing out on such rewards.

We have here a political conflict and for Argentina the Malvinas is not economic, it is political. Despite all the disputes over the islands, historians are agreed that the fateful decision to invade in made by Argentina's then-leader General Leopoldo Galtieri was an attempt to gain popular support for a military dictatorship that, by the early s, was morally and economically bankrupt.

The sight of the unemployed scavenging through rubbish to sell on to recycling companies is a common one. And strikes and demonstrations are frequent. This week teachers have been demonstrating in Buenos Aires calling for pay rises to match inflation. I ask the demonstrators whether this new row with Britain over the Falklands is a deliberate tactic by Ms Fernandez to divert attention from the country's current economic woes.